Diesel,Guns and chainsaws, Nothing better.

[red rattler]

Hi all just registered here, Have been a long time member of DTR. These are a few of my guns. have had them for a while. Most are class 3. Got into collecting them about twenty five years ago. Can't afford them now as they are insane on the price tags. I have a lot of pics to post so this may take a while.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii51/rlevns/scan0002.jpg

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii51/rlevns/scan0003.jpg

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii51/rlevns/scan0004.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii51/rlevns/scan0028.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii51/rlevns/scan0025.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii51/rlevns/scan0018.jpg

[GasganoFJ60]

Guns like that are works of art in some ways. I hope you have those displayed on walls in your home... ;)

[red rattler]

Guns like that are works of art in some ways. I hope you have those displayed on walls in your home... ;)No, Actually they are in gun safes. It would be nice to do that but i would be nervous all the time.LOL

[Fronty Owner]

I'll give you $50 for the AUG...

btw, where's the diesel and chainsaws?

[Gunlovingvet]

WOW! great collection WOW!

[red rattler]

I'll try to get more pics. I don't have any of the modern ones like some of you guys have. Mine are all old, But still function.

[GasganoFJ60]

Wow, you got quite the selection.
I like the old WWII blades.

[Fronty Owner]

The scatter gun collection looks a little thin...

but an impressive collection.

[red rattler]

The scatter gun collection looks a little thin...

but an impressive collection.I have a lot more shotguns but will have to take pics. I have five old browning round knobs.[ that's what we always called them]Two have never been fired. They were made in the 40s and 50s. Used to collect muzzeloaders and have a few of them as well. but they are not worth much now as everyone prefers the inline models.

[Redleg]

I'd like to see a couple more of that first '03. Springfield? Rock Island? Mark 1?

[red rattler]

I'd like to see a couple more of that first '03. Springfield? Rock Island? Mark 1?I'll see if i can get it out and take some for you. It will be later in the week though. Gotta work a lot of overtime this week.

[davemac]

Note to self:
Do not pi$$ of red rattler

[n2moto]

Yo Rattler would you consider adopting me? I'll pay.

[red rattler]

Note to self:
Do not pi$$ of red rattlerNah, I'm easy going.

[red rattler]

Yo Rattler would you consider adopting me? I'll pay.How much.:D

[David]

Nice NFA collection. Im just getting into the stuff. Waiting on my MG42 transfer and M79. Then it'll be a 1919 and MP40 next year.

Here's my contribution to diesel and guns, my transferrable M60 on one of our deuces.:D

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/615/img0330pj8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/img0330pj8.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img123/img0330pj8.jpg/1/)

[MikeyB]

Nice collection Red Rattler. What version is your Armalite AR18/180? I had a single digit Howa built.

Wish I had taken pics over the years of our collection. Bought cheap many years ago and sold a lot for big profits. Two that I regret selling is the Colt Thompson 1921/28 overstamp in the original FBI case with two 50 round drums and my 1918A2 BAR. But both brought major coins.

A few pics of my current SHTF hardware, with a few more on the way. Top to bottom: Aussie SLR, British L1A1 and a SA-4800 (Brazilian FN-FAL)

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z7/mikeyb_harley/L1A1wood2.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z7/mikeyb_harley/l1a1_1.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z7/mikeyb_harley/rock.jpg

MikeyB

[David]

Wish I had taken pics over the years of our collection. Bought cheap many years ago and sold a lot for big profits. Two that I regret selling is the Colt Thompson 1921/28 overstamp in the original FBI case with two 50 round drums and my 1918A2 BAR. But both brought major coins.

A few pics of my current SHTF hardware, with a few more on the way. Top to bottom: Aussie SLR, British L1A1 and a SA-4800 (Brazilian FN-FAL)

MikeyB

I wish my father had kept some of his stuff he acquired in the 50s. He had tons of ****. Then Kennedy got assasinated and he sold it all. Now he just collects military sniper variants etc.

While I like the NFA stuff.:(

Nice FALs though, thats one rifle our house isnt lacking in.

[Gunlovingvet]

Wanna see my Red Ryder?

[Fronty Owner]

Wanna see my Red Ryder?

does it have a compass in the stock?

[Gunlovingvet]

how did you know?http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/parenting/2006/12/14/www.galenfrysinger.ws250x187.jpg

[Fronty Owner]

how did you know?http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/parenting/2006/12/14/www.galenfrysinger.ws250x187.jpg

careful, you shoot your eye out with that thang...

[MikeyB]

We're watching the movie right now! Love it.

MikeyB

[Gunlovingvet]

Its a tradition here.

[red rattler]

Nice collection Red Rattler. What version is your Armalite AR18/180? I had a single digit Howa built.

Wish I had taken pics over the years of our collection. Bought cheap many years ago and sold a lot for big profits. Two that I regret selling is the Colt Thompson 1921/28 overstamp in the original FBI case with two 50 round drums and my 1918A2 BAR. But both brought major coins.

A few pics of my current SHTF hardware, with a few more on the way. Top to bottom: Aussie SLR, British L1A1 and a SA-4800 (Brazilian FN-FAL)

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z7/mikeyb_harley/L1A1wood2.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z7/mikeyb_harley/l1a1_1.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z7/mikeyb_harley/rock.jpg

MikeyBThat first fn is a beauty, All of them are actually.

[red rattler]

Nice NFA collection. Im just getting into the stuff. Waiting on my MG42 transfer and M79. Then it'll be a 1919 and MP40 next year.

Here's my contribution to diesel and guns, my transferrable M60 on one of our deuces.:D

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/615/img0330pj8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/img0330pj8.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img123/img0330pj8.jpg/1/)Wish i had an m-60, Almost bought one years ago. Wish i had they are worth a lot of money now.

[jughead]

i think that is the first aug i have seen in a collection. is it FA

[red rattler]

i think that is the first aug i have seen in a collection. is it FANah, I wish. It's just semi.

[jughead]

it is a shame. i have never shot the fa version but i loved the accuracy of the one i shot years ago. i saw 3 transferables at Knob Creek 10, 12 years ago. started at 5k to 8k then. it was way out of my reach then. aint no telling what they are now.

[red rattler]

it is a shame. i have never shot the fa version but i loved the accuracy of the one i shot years ago. i saw 3 transferables at Knob Creek 10, 12 years ago. started at 5k to 8k then. it was way out of my reach then. aint no telling what they are now.Yeah their all out of my price range now, It's getting now where i can't even afford the ammo to shoot them.

[David]

it is a shame. i have never shot the fa version but i loved the accuracy of the one i shot years ago. i saw 3 transferables at Knob Creek 10, 12 years ago. started at 5k to 8k then. it was way out of my reach then. aint no telling what they are now.
Like 99% of the transferrable MP5s, Steyr AUG have registered sears/trigger packs and start life as semi auto imports.

Right now, a transferrable Steyr AUG (gun and sear etc) is $15k typically.

[red rattler]

Like 99% of the transferrable MP5s, Steyr AUG have registered sears/trigger packs and start life as semi auto imports.

Right now, a transferrable Steyr AUG (gun and sear etc) is $15k typically.It's hard for me to imagine how people can afford one of the class 3 guns now.

[David]

It's hard for me to imagine how people can afford one of the class 3 guns now.
I guess it comes down to priorities.

One can always spend the same in cars, boats, TVs, vacations etc.

[jughead]

does this mean if one could afford a steyr and could find a tranferable trigger pack. one could make it fa. dont laugh i am a dumb old man. dont want to get in any kind of trouble with the powers that be.:confused:

[red rattler]

does this mean if one could afford a steyr and could find a tranferable trigger pack. one could make it fa. dont laugh i am a dumb old man. dont want to get in any kind of trouble with the powers that be.:confused:No, They can no longer make full autos. You can still have and buy them but only the ones that are already class 3they can not be manufactured and some can't be imported no more. That's the reason they are so expensive. Even some semi auto's can't be imported here. Heckler and koch is one of them.

[red rattler]

I guess it comes down to priorities.

One can always spend the same in cars, boats, TVs, vacations etc.Yup, You would be right.

[jughead]

so go my dreams. be hard to afford the semi much less an fa. thanks for the replies.

[David]

does this mean if one could afford a steyr and could find a tranferable trigger pack. one could make it fa. dont laugh i am a dumb old man. dont want to get in any kind of trouble with the powers that be.:confused:

Yes.

If you had a Steyr AUG gun and bought a registered trigger pack, you could make the gun full auto legally.

Thing is, they're expensive. Anything that's full auto capable, had to have been imported before the GCA of 1968, or made in the US and registered before May 19, 1986. Thus, supply and demand come into effect after 22 years.

Anything imported after 1968 or made (and currently imported) after May 19, 1986 are all dealer/LEO only purchaseable guns.

[red rattler]

Yes.

If you had a Steyr AUG gun and bought a registered trigger pack, you could make the gun full auto legally.

Thing is, they're expensive. Anything that's full auto capable, had to have been imported before the GCA of 1968, or made in the US and registered before May 19, 1986. Thus, supply and demand come into effect after 22 years.

Anything imported after 1968 or made (and currently imported) after May 19, 1986 are all dealer/LEO only purchaseable guns.Hmmm, I didn't think they could be made anymore. Learn something new everyday.

[David]

Hmmm, I didn't think they could be made anymore. Learn something new everyday.

For private purchase, you are correct. Nothing can be made or imported for private purchase.

If one finds a Pre-1986 registered individually transferrable MP5 sear, one can drop that sear into their semi auto HK93, HK91, HK94 etc. and have a legal machine gun. The GCA of 68 started to define specifically what makes up machine guns etc. In the HK example, the sear is the registered part and specifically registered in multiple calibers for uses in different guns.

Hard to swallow that a 1oz piece of metal is worth any where from $12k-$15k.:o

HK Sear
http://www.issmc.com/jt/images/hk_sear/autosear_top_v2_small.jpg

[red rattler]

For private purchase, you are correct. Nothing can be made or imported for private purchase.

If one finds a Pre-1986 registered individually transferrable MP5 sear, one can drop that sear into their semi auto HK93, HK91, HK94 etc. and have a legal machine gun. The GCA of 68 started to define specifically what makes up machine guns etc. In the HK example, the sear is the registered part and specifically registered in multiple calibers for uses in different guns.

Hard to swallow that a 1oz piece of metal is worth any where from $12k-$15k.:o

HK Sear
http://www.issmc.com/jt/images/hk_sear/autosear_top_v2_small.jpgLOL, That is some kind of expensive metal. Thanks for the explanation.

[David]

I learn something new about the NFA everyday. It's an always evolving thing.

[Fronty Owner]

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii51/rlevns/scan0007.jpg

is that a steyr or a microtech?

[red rattler]

is that a steyr or a microtech?It's a steyr, It's weird gun to shoot. Not crazy about the built in scope. The trigger is not the best in the west either. Works good though.

[Fronty Owner]

found on another forum that microtech small arms has a rifle that looks like the AUG but US made and 1/2 the price. They ahve one with a rail in place of the optic.

[jughead]

it has been several years since i shot a steyr. scope was a little weak for this old mans eyes. it was the most accurate rifle i have ever shot. some of the shots i made at 400 measured yrds. were hard for me to believe. beer cans 3 out of5 and backed it up. painted rail road spikes a 100 yrds. put 8-9 shots in end of beer can circle. one shot dead center of the spike. yes i still have that spike on a shelf in my shop. ps my son was cutting those same spikes in half with an AR-50. it was a lot of fun.

[Redleg]

Sharp Springfield! But darn it. Now you got me daydreaming about a 16ga browning too.

[red rattler]

Sharp Springfield! But darn it. Now you got me daydreaming about a 16ga browning too.Yeah, Them old brownings are some sweet shooters. Ive carried that old 16 gauge many a mile hunting squirrels and rabbits. Have even hunted quail with it but couldn't hit none. It's a full choke and i ain't that good a shot.LOL

[madhat]

AMAZING collection. How did you get that M16-A1?

[Fronty Owner]

AMAZING collection. How did you get that M16-A1?

probably like most people that have them.... bought it before you were born...

[red rattler]

AMAZING collection. How did you get that M16-A1?Thanks, The m-16 was bought in 1983 and the m-16 carbine was bought in 85. All of those guns were purchased between 1980 and 1990.

[Fronty Owner]

Thanks, The m-16 was bought in 1983 and the m-16 carbine was bought in 85. All of those guns were purchased between 1980 and 1990.

I was close on my guess...
Mark is also a couple years older than I thought.