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CMoore
11-22-2008, 09:55 PM
Any body have or shoot a glock 10mm. Thinking that may be my next gun. Any info on one would be great.
Thanks
Cory

Gunlovingvet
11-22-2008, 10:16 PM
My Cousin had one and I fired a box through it.
I Liked it a lot. The recoil was not as bad as I thought it would be and it sure made peaches explode on the trees.

CMoore
11-24-2008, 07:41 PM
The only draw back I could see is the ammo is a little expensive.
Cory

n2moto
11-25-2008, 05:58 AM
I have one. It's hard to find ammo loaded to the potential of the cartridge, and when you do it's big bucks. A 10 is between a 357 and a 41 mag.

Replace the sites and put in a 3.5 connector and the gun will be easier to shoot.

When I go in the hills it's the gun I take with me. It's not a 44 but I don't need a 44 where I go the ten is just fine. Plus it was cheaper to buy and the ammo is cheaper than 44. It's lighter than a 44 too. It's hard to argue with 16 rounds of 10. You can buy mag extensions and it will hold 20 rounds.

If you want to save a few bucks you can shoot 40 through it for practice. It won't be as accurate any you could have a couple of jams but then you get practice clearing jams. It generally works pretty good.

Adaminak
11-26-2008, 07:35 AM
If you want to save a few bucks you can shoot 40 through it for practice. It won't be as accurate any you could have a couple of jams but then you get practice clearing jams. It generally works pretty good.

Man, that's a huge problem waiting to happen. I'm sure it would work in a jam, but I'd never do it with anything I liked and respected. And I'd never do it on a regular basis.

Both cartridges are rimless and headspace off the case mouth. The 10mm is significantly longer than the 40, which means you're relying on the extractor to hold the cartridge against the breech face. This is especially bad when you consider the 10mm has large size primers, and the corresponding firing pin spring tension is even more likely to angle the 40 case deeper into the chamber.

wannadiesel
11-26-2008, 01:01 PM
^^^^ I'm with him! ^^^^

Bad idea for all the reasons Adam stated.

n2moto
11-27-2008, 10:38 PM
Yes I knew all this was going to come up. First there are guns designed to head space off of the extractor. Those guns weren't known for accuracy.

I've seen it done many times and have done it myself without any ill effects. I wouldn't do it for anything other than informal plinking. Or you can buy a barrel for about a hundred bucks chambered in 40 if you like.

JeffinTD
11-30-2008, 02:29 PM
Personally, if you are going to get a 10mm, you might also consider getting into handloading.

I've fired the 10mm glocks, and I found the gun to be a pleasure to shoot, and very accurate. The bigger frame fits my had better.

More recently I've been dinking around with a delta elite, which is also fun.

XLR8R
11-30-2008, 08:24 PM
I sure like the 10mm round, but use the Block 17 for practicality... never have to worry about finding enough 9mil!

Adaminak
12-01-2008, 10:02 AM
Yes I knew all this was going to come up. First there are guns designed to head space off of the extractor. Those guns weren't known for accuracy.

Not trying to flame, but can you tell me which guns headspace off the extractor? A handgun extractor is nothing more than a thin piece of semi-soft metal designed as a wear component. I find it difficult to believe someone can keep the tolerances necessary for proper cartridge alignment. I'm always looking to broaden my knowledge though.

Regardless the firearm design, we should always keep in mind what SAAMI uses as their specs, and all of their certified ammunition headspaces off the case rim, case mouth, a point along the case shoulder, or the case belt.

Regardless the ease with which you can actually shoot the 40 through a 10mm chamber, every shot will strike the end of the chamber where the cartridge is supposed to headspace, and that 180gr jacketed bullet striking a sharp-edged piece of metal (.54mm from outside of case diameter to start of bbl throat) will not only fill the chamber with copper fouling, but eventually wear the proper seat away, causing all sorts of problems.

n2moto
12-02-2008, 10:50 AM
Well I guess the most famous gun would have been designed by JMB the 1911 in 38 super. One big reason they weren't considered accurate pistols from the get go.

Now that time has passed I don't know if they still make them that way or if they have changed to indexing on the case mouth.

soulezoo
12-02-2008, 03:11 PM
The Glock 20 is too big a frame for me so am not a fan. However, I've been shooting/reloading 10mm since 1985. I consider it to be the finest autoloader cartridge, although that is only my opinion and it's popularity suggests I am wrong on this.

I have a Wilson massaged Colt Delta Elite (first one to make it to CA) and a Bren Ten (one of the first 100 made).

It is a very versatile round... can be loaded way down to 9mm power levels and commercial ammo up to Buffalo Bores' heavy stuff--- off the top of my head it is over 700 ftlbs of muzzle energy. Wichester slivertips is in the low 600's and easy to find and accurate to shoot even if not all that inexpensive.

AA #7 and Sierra 180 JHP is a really nice handloaders combo... My own handloads of this runs 1350 fps out of my Delta Elite.

n2moto
12-03-2008, 01:44 PM
Soulezoo I'm with you I like my 10's. Well I like my Glock my DE is sitting in the safe until I finish my other projects and get it done up.

CMoore
12-07-2008, 02:06 PM
Thanks for the info guys.
Cory