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Adaminak
10-30-2008, 01:17 PM
A little history first: I'm a skeet shooter. Have been for about 10 years now. When I left Alaska and ended up in Korea (2003), I packed my shotshell presses, wads, and whatever remaining shot I had into a few storage containers and hid them away for the next time I could get set up and start shooting seriously.

Fast forward 5 years: So here I sit in Iraq, dreaming about things I'd like to do when I get home and I decide I should get back into competitive skeet. I start digging through the online sites looking at equipment and components and whatnot, and I decide I can order a little at a time and have it mailed to the house...ready and waiting for me to return, when I noticed something odd: WHEN DID THEY CONVERT LEAD TO GOLD!?:eek: The last ton of shot I bought cost me $13.25/bag, or $.53/lb. Now the cheapest I can find is $48/bag, or $1.92/lb, a 362% increase over just 5 years! I'm sure I can get it in bulk for a little less, but c'mon. $18/bag was expensive a few years ago, and now it's worth another $30 for the same stuff?

What gives?

Fronty Owner
10-31-2008, 12:28 AM
yup. I have only been loading for a couple years and seen a nice price increase

wait till you go buy actual ammo. its doubled in a couple years.

Redleg
10-31-2008, 02:53 AM
I imagine the war has it inflated along with ammo.

Equalizer_2
11-01-2008, 03:35 AM
About 5-7 years ago lead sold for about $500 a ton. About 1-2 years ago it was going for about $3200 a ton. It has so many uses in the developing world (China) that thieves are ripping it off the roofs of the old churches in Europe. They used to roof them with sheet lead as it lasted so long. There was a small news blurb in "The American Rifleman" a year or so back that told this story.

Adaminak
11-01-2008, 07:14 AM
This keeps up it might not be worth my time to reload. I haven't figured the new costs yet, but a case of 20ga shells used to cost less than $25 to reload, with the biggest expense being shot. I'm sure it'll be closer to $50/case now, and I've seen factory ammo running $62/case. Is it really worth an hour of my time to save $12? It'll still pay off for the little guns, but for my 20ga stuff, I may start shooting factory.

XLR8R
11-02-2008, 07:38 AM
Yes, the high demand for lead has exerted upward pressure on the market price, and government mandated compliance costs have increased dramatically.

The lead at the shop is probably going to end up in the same category as the jar of mercury. :(

Gunlovingvet
11-03-2008, 02:05 AM
I only have 8 lbs of Mercury.

XLR8R
11-03-2008, 04:10 AM
... that ought to be more than enough! :)

Redleg
11-04-2008, 04:58 AM
Scrap prices took a dump, so maybe things will become sane again?

Gunsmith/Administrator
11-04-2008, 07:15 PM
One thing no one has yet mentioned is the cost of shipping that lead :eek:

Redleg
11-05-2008, 03:57 AM
Lots of lead in D.C., or soon to be. Maybe it'll come down.

Adaminak
11-05-2008, 08:49 AM
I hadn't worried about shipping as bulk shot comes to AK via railcar and barge. The last order cost roughly $.07/lb ($1175 on 8 tons), and I can't believe it'd be more than $.11/lb now. Of course, I'll probably not get the same rate as I won't be ordering nearly the same quantity, but I've got to start somewhere, and I never really cared for making my own shot...

Palerider
11-08-2008, 11:50 PM
I imagine the war has it inflated along with ammo.

Man, that's no lie. I've been trying to find a source for cases of milsurp 7.62 NATO. The boys and girls in the "big kitty litter box" (Middle East) of the world must be shooting the stuff up pretty regular.

gandog56
01-02-2009, 03:11 PM
This keeps up it might not be worth my time to reload.

Well, except for the part that manufactured ammo prices are going up just as much.:mad:

JeffinTD
04-07-2011, 07:47 AM
Must be China using all of it to make children's toys...