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Administrator
11-19-2008, 12:46 PM
Obama's Gun Dance

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Barack Obama, who informs campaign audiences that he taught constitutional law for 10 years, might be expected to weigh in on the historic Second Amendment case before the U.S. Supreme Court. The justices are pondering whether the 1976 District of Columbia law effectively prohibiting personal gun ownership in the nation's capital is constitutional. But Sen. Obama has not stated his position.

Obama, disagreeing with the D.C. government and gun control advocates, declares the Second Amendment's "right of the people to keep and bear arms" applies to individuals, not just the "well-regulated militia" cited in the amendment. In the next breath, he asserts this constitutional guarantee does not preclude local "common sense" restrictions on firearms. Does the Draconian prohibition for Washington, D.C., fit that description? My attempts to get an answer have proved unavailing. The front-running Democratic presidential candidate is doing the gun dance.

That is a dance of many Democrats, revealed by my private conversations with the party's strategists. As urban liberals, they reject constitutional protection for gun owners. As campaign managers, they want to avoid re-enacting the fate of many Democratic candidates who lost elections because of gun control advocacy. The party's House leadership last year pulled off the floor a bill for a District of Columbia congressional seat in order to save Democratic members from having to vote on a Republican amendment against the D.C. gun law.

..view the whole story on Real Clear Politics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/obamas_gun_dance.html)....

AggieJustin
11-20-2008, 03:19 AM
Hmmm...He likes guns, he doesn't like guns...which could it be?

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=39345

jughead
11-20-2008, 01:23 PM
who will define reasonable?

t-boe
11-20-2008, 02:23 PM
Maybe he's a closet gun freak....one can hope.

Administrator
11-20-2008, 03:36 PM
lets hope. lol

I'm not going to be happy having to pay god knows what for a box of ammo.

Gunlovingvet
11-20-2008, 04:12 PM
Jack as a LEO do you see the Govt trying to send you into peoples homes for checks and grabs in the future? and is it something discussed by your Brothers?

tightgroup
11-20-2008, 04:57 PM
I have a feeling that Obama will roll with the polls. If we keep the pressure on then he will be thinking twice about more gun control.

Gunlovingvet
11-20-2008, 05:06 PM
Hope your right but fear the frog in hot water syndrome.

Equalizer_2
11-21-2008, 04:34 AM
They believe the right of the people to keep and bear arms just like they believe in the right of free speech.

You have the right to keep and bear arms as long as you agree with their rules and regulations. For the free speech, as long as you say what they would if they were talking then you should have free speech. If you disagree then some "reasonable" restrictions should apply. They define "reasonable" as only their point of view should or will be heard.

John_P
11-21-2008, 08:47 PM
Syndicated Radio News Commentator Neal Boortz brought up some good points on Obama and Guns in his Blog today. Here is what he said:

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OBAMA ON GUN OWNERSHIP
By Neal Boortz @ November 21, 2008 8:10 AM

Remember a few days ago I gave you the link so that you could apply for a position in the Obama Administration? You would have to fill out some 63 questions about some very personal issues. One of which the Obama camp chose to include was about gun ownership. Under the headline of "Miscellaneous," the question reads: "Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so, provide complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage."

A question like this DID NOT exist for the Bush Administration. But many people, including the NRA, are upset by this question. Apparently one Republican Senator has already considered legislation that would make it illegal for a president to use an applicant's gun ownership status to deny anyone of employment.
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I thought this was pretty interesting and IMO "drives home" the point about Obama wanting to "get in your business" about gun ownership!

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Gunlovingvet
11-21-2008, 11:52 PM
glad to have you here John.

Adaminak
11-22-2008, 06:48 AM
Jack as a LEO do you see the Govt trying to send you into peoples homes for checks and grabs in the future? and is it something discussed by your Brothers?

This worry made the rounds through the military community in the early 90's. Squadron Commander (during a formation) asked a simple question of "If we had to go door to door on base and collect people's guns, what would you do?" Most of us said we wouldn't do it. Arrogant Master Sergeant said we'd all do it if he ordered us to do it, and someone in the back of the formation said it wasn't a lawful order. MSgt says the senior leadership decides what's legal or not, and we'll do whatever he or the commander says. A different kid in the back (think he was an E-3) says there are bigger issues at play than the orders of someone who forgot the oath of enlistment and the MSgt said he wouldn't accept "such outright mutiny" and tried to put the kid in handcuffs. He quickly found himself surrounded by people who weren't there to help him. The only thing that stopped the MSgt from ending up in the hospital was the commander, who managed to reassert some authority and break up the fight before it started. Turns out our unit wasn't the only one where that particular scenario played out. It raised such an outcry of anger and disorder throughout the whole base that the Wing Commander ordered a Commander's Call to quell the rumors and stop a protest before it got too big a head of steam.

While I don’t think the response would be quite as fiery today as it was 14 years ago, I’m pretty certain it would eventually play out the same way.

John_P
11-22-2008, 11:48 PM
glad to have you here John.
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Thanks buddy!;)

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Mcmopar
11-26-2008, 02:47 PM
This new bunch of info on the O-**** is getting really scarry when it comes to my guns and rights---What were people thinking voting for the lying "O"