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Old 05-03-2009, 08:37 PM
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Somebody school me on acp rounds in a revolver..

I've been told, and it certainly makes sense, about using the little clips on auto rounds in a revolver.
But the other day I watched a vid on youtube(a pretty lame one I admit) and the guy had a blackhawk 45. He showed, and did nothing to the auto rounds to drop them right in the acp cylinder.

So does the blackhawk cylinder require clips on the rounds, or is there something I'm missing here?

If it requires clips, I'd sooner get a 1911 for the 45acp, and just get a standard revolver, but if it's simple to use acp in a single-action, I'd rather get the blackhawk convert to make the most use of the ammo I normally have here....
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:13 PM
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In order to avoid using the half moon clips, the cylinder would have to be bored in such a way to headspace on the rim the same way an auto pistol does. Not saying it isn't possible, but I've never heard of it. Extraction would be the issue in my mind; without really thinking it through, unless the old SAA style of ejection rod were employed, how would one get the fired brass out? Being rimless, I don't see the common star extractor working.
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:02 AM
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That was my feeling, but then that little video I saw confused me, as I didn't see him put any clips on before dropping the acp's in.
I did see Charter is coming out with a rimless revolver(CARR), not sure how it works though. It doesnt interest me though, I want a long barrel.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:31 AM
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I was wonder about this too, I have been looking at some single-action replica revolvers lately and have seen replacement cylinders for 45 acp for them. I have not looked in person at one so I would be very interested to know how they work. If I find one I will post up.
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Old 05-07-2009, 02:43 AM
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I have a S&W M25 in 45acp and it will work without the clips as the headspace is on the rim. Without the clips extraction is very slow, but you can do it one at a time or using a small rod or dowel. In a single action they still headspace on the rim and you have the ejector rod to make it work.

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Old 05-08-2009, 04:45 AM
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Don't have one but I've always wanted one. One neat thing about the full moon clips is that you can make a really quick reload if need be.
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Old 05-08-2009, 11:22 PM
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There's a cartridge known as the '.45 auto rim' just for revolvers chambered in the .45acp so the full, 1/2 or 1/3 moon isn't required. Extracts just like any other rimmed pistol cartridge.

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Old 05-11-2009, 01:56 AM
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Found the scoop. Double-action always uses the moon clips, primarily so the star will unload them. Since single action uses the ejector rod, the cartridge headspaces with a ridge in the cylinder that catches the mouth of the acp cartridge - So in a single action, like the Blackhawk convert that I was hoping to get, they all load the same way, no clips or fussing needed.

I've never seen the Auto-rim cartridge, but I've also been told that the auto-rim cartridge won't work in the Blackhawk acp cylinders, not sure why...
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Old 05-11-2009, 03:15 AM
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Having another cylinder is not a bad thing but it does add cost.

I have a Ruger Vaquero and a Winchester 92 in 45 Colt, and a couple 1911's in 45ACP. It is a little bit of a pain to reload for both calibers but all you need is different brass. The bullets, primers, and powder are the same.
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Old 05-11-2009, 03:23 AM
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How do you like shooting the 1911?
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